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New Layout and information…

Posted by Gonehunting on May 19, 2012
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If you have visited here before you may have noticed a change in the Website. From time to time a I will try out new themes to see if it is easier to read and move about the website. I have also made it easier to visit the site by changing the Domain name to www.gonehuntingforhistory.com.  It is easier to say gonehuntingforhistory.com when explaining my site to landowners and people interested in the site. One other thing is I have opened up an email in case you have questions about the site, about the items I find, or are interested in purchasing a detector thru Big Boys Hobbies, I can help you with questions and prices.. My site email address is evan@gonehuntingforhistory.com. 

Thanks for reading and Happy Hunting

Evan

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Going to see if Susan McIntosh Is Still there…..

Posted by Gonehunting on May 14, 2012
Posted in: Interesting Stories While Detecting. 1 comment

From time to time, while gaining permission from different landowner’s, I hear some very interesting stories. One in particular was out of the ordinary, to say the least.

I approached a woman washing her car in front of a two story home that appeared to have been built in the mid 1920′s. It looked to have been kept as extremely close to original as they come. My favorite type to hunt. The yard was well kept and there wasn’t any modern work on the yard. ie concrete or brickwork. We discussed the proposition of me detecting her property when she told me this story.

Next to their driveway, outside the picket fence, was a fresh slab of concrete. She said before it was poured, there was a grass divider between her yard and the neighbor’s. Her husband had kept it mowed, and occasionally he would hit this large rock that would catch the mower deck. After several years of this, he decided to dig up the rock and get it out of the way. Not long after beginning the removal, her husband came inside, looking a little pale and said “You need to come look at this!”

What he had uncovered was a shock to the both of them. The troublesome rock turned out to be a tombstone! Immediate fear overcame them that they were living on an old grave yard. After settling down they noticed the date and realized maybe it wasn’t as first thought.

The tombstone belonged to a Mrs. Susan “Susie” M. McIntosh, wife of Senator James Thomas McIntosh of Durant. Susie, had died in 1917 on her 30th year in Oklahoma City seeking treatment for an unknown illness. Research shows Susan McIntosh was buried in Highland Cemetery in Durant, Oklahoma.

An interesting tidbit was that Senator McIntosh’s mother was the great granddaughter of Daniel Boone…..

After finding the headstone, the landowners started asking around about the name, Susan McIntosh and several accounts of the same story surfaced. Back in 1921, Senator McIntosh was remarried to one Lillian Mae Brigham. The Senator still missed his “Susie” and would constantly visit her grave site. This was rumored to have enraged the newly married Lillian. It was said that the extremely jealous Lillian would take Susie’s headstone and hide it. Sen McIntosh would find the stone and return it or have it replaced. He did this, up until his death in 1927. The newly widowed Lillian rumored to have taken the stone one last time and was said to have buried it next to her home face down where she could use it as a stepping stone. As you would guess the house next door was the one-time residence of Sen. McIntosh and his ever so loving wife Lillian…..

One such story came from a long time friend of the landowner. Her friend said while in High School, her and her friends would sneak out to the cemetery to see if Susie McIntosh was still there….

After getting this info, the landowners searched the records of the Highland Cemetery and sure enough, Mrs Susie’s plot was without a headstone. The landowner kindly returned the stone to it’s right full place forever leaving Susie McIntosh Still there……

Notice the Scrubbed out initials of JT (James Thomas)

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Gaining Permission….

Posted by Gonehunting on May 12, 2012
Posted in: Advice: Hope it Helps. 1 comment

I have been asked “How are you so successful at getting permission to hunt so many spots?”. So I will go into what I do.
1st of all just driving around looking for old homes is fine, but there is a lot more too it. The first thing I did when I decided to canvas my town, was going to the library and doing a little research. Points of interest are the very first homes, parks, and schools.

Durant, Oklahoma Circa 1912

I use Sanborne Fire maps religiously. They are online and available thru most public library logins. I try to print off as many as I can. I keep them in binders and reference them continuously..
There are other things I do, but gaining permission is the topic so I will try and stay on it.

I will focus on homes where the landowner is still living there. If the yard has a sidewalk in front of it, all the better. This can be the key to getting your foot in the door. Most cities and towns own/or have easement to the land in between the sidewalk and the street, mostly for utility purposes. Some landowners don’t realize this but most do. First off I gained permission from city hall from the City Manager to hunt any City own land.. This is another great opportunity, but back to topic.

If your location doesn’t have a sidewalk move to some that have and gain a notoriety for taking care of the landowner’s property and then go back with the info that you have hunted a this person’s house or old location. This will sometimes help you get the landowner to open up to you, when you mention someone they know.

So, I have found a particular property. It has a sidewalk, the home is old, and the landowner is home. I don’t ever walk up with my equipment, I have learned that is a turn off if they don’t know what you are doing. I will knock and introduce myself. I tell them my name, tell them I am local. I sometimes will mention who I know or if I have hunted other well known properties. I explain that I have a website(Gonehunting for History) and a YouTube channel. I let them know that I am definitely interested in the Historical aspect of the finds.. Since the treasure hunting shows that have come out, I have been asked several times if that is what I do.. I reassure them that is not what I am about. I never mention Treasure or Treasure Hunting. You never want to give off the vibe that you are in it for profit. I am not. I do from time to time sell some coins/tokens to help with the cost of hunting, but selling the relics, is something I won’t do. This is my passion and hobby, not a means or to make a living. Back to topic.

Once I introduce myself, I ask them if they wouldn’t mind if I metal detected the city property between the sidewalk and the street. I tell them that I have permission from the city, but as a courtesy am asking them if they are ok with me being out there. 10 times out 10 they have let me. I ask them if I start finding relics and historical finds would they mind if I continued into their yard. Most of the time they ask what I use to dig. I will go and get my belt and some of my equipment and explain the digging of a plug. I always try to dig a 3/4 quarter plug or flap. I explain that I never ever leave uncovered holes. I also tell them I will remove all metal and trash that I find.

Now if you are doing this don’t wait till the dead of summer cause you will kill the grass. The best time is in the spring when the ground is moist. Yards with St. Augustine are the easiest to dig a good clean plug, then Bermuda and Johnson grass. If they water their lawn constantly then you should be ok.

I tell them I can demonstrate how I will dig and replace on the city’s side of the sidewalk if they would like to see. This will help.

Most of them will ask what I intend to do with the things I find, and what’s in it for them. This is where the “treasure shows” have hurt me especially. If your lucky some haven’t watched them. 9 times out of 10 the finds that are made aren’t valuable monetarily, and are only good as a historical relic or find. I tell them that if I find something related to the history of the town I will put the find on loan to the local museum if the museum would take it. I also tell them if I find any jewelry that they can identify as their’s, they are more than welcome to it. This seems to put them more at ease. Now if they seem to be on the edge of whether or not they want to let you, I tell them if I find a gold coin I will split the value of the gold or the coin, which ever is the most. This will catch their ear. I, myself have found gold coins in the past and tell them there is always a chance to do so in their yard. You never know.

I also ask them if it is ok if I film. I explain that I will not use film of the location just the ground. This is a big one. Tell them you will NEVER show up when they are not there, and NEVER will you tell someone else it is ok to go and hunt there. IF they have someone show up and say that you sent them, without pryor approval, you tell them to call the police. I have had several landowner’s that  has called me upset, that there was someone there hunting saying, ole Evan or Gonehunting has sent them. I actually confronted 2 such rats doing that.. they said “yeah, Evan said it was ok.” I was a little astonished at the audacity of these goons, to my face! They had no clue who I was, but they sure used my name. I escorted them to the street and called the police department. I politely told them, if I was them I wouldn’t do that again.. I’d hate to be in the newspaper for wrapping a detector around their head….back to topic…

Another thing be careful who you take with you on your outings. I hunt with only a few people. I can trust them not only to be quiet but to take care of the property. I used to be free with who I took with me and what I said to them, that has also come back to haunt me several times.

So cover yourself and be sure you get your point across to the land owner that you will do your part in protecting their privacy. I used to take a signed hold harmless document that explained everything that I just told them.. But it is a sue happy world and I thought it best not to give them any fuel. I have never been run off of a property or been threatened after visiting a spot. I do sometimes hand them a business card with my Gonehunting for History info as reminder that we did talk.

Lastly, if you find a lot cool relics and coins, share some of them. It lets the landowner know just how thankful you are that they let you on their property.

Another thing is to watch landowners in adjoining properties while you are detecting. I don’t know how many times I have been hunting and noticed a neighbor watching us. So I will go over to them and strike up a conversation about what I do and what I am finding. This tactic is key into moving down the street and opening more doors to hunt. Most will let you when they see you at other properties..

On a second note, if you have extra detector’s, invite them to hunt with you. Spend time with them and help them make finds. You never know the doors it can open for you. Trust me on that one.

Durant, Oklahoma, circa 1912

The pictures in this post were from a landowner’s collection. I had hunted their property and they told me of some key points about the town and shared these two old photos among others.

I hope this helps and I will read this I am sure and see something I left out. If I update this post you will see it in the title……thanks for reading! Happy Hunting!

Evan

Gonehunting for History

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Minelab’s CTX3030 is coming May 28th Updated Info..

Posted by Gonehunting on May 12, 2012
Posted in: and other info, Reviews. Leave a Comment

The Price for the CTX3030 has now been release. Contact Big Boys Hobbies Link Click HERE , or email me at evan@gonehuntingforhistory.com.

I have been waiting on this machine and put together this video.. Hope you enjoy.. As soon as this dude reaches my front door I will have a box opening vid. I will then head out and do some hunting. If I start making some finds I will post another vid. I would like to wait at least 2 weeks before I go thru the settings and what it will do till I know it a little better.. Keep checking back!!!

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Minelab CTX3030 What I am Seeing From Minelab Tester’s Posts

Posted by Gonehunting on May 11, 2012
Posted in: Just to See Myself Talk.. Leave a Comment

I have been hitting several different forums where the Testers are posting info.. there is alot of new tech that the Trac is definitely in a different ball park. From what I am reading there are three things that are definitely a +.

One is IDing several targets under the coil and being able to “see” where they are under the coil in the pinpoint, whether its a coin, nail, coin, or whatever. and going by the color judging the ferrous/conductive ratings of those targets(i may be wrong)

Second is the waterproof feature. nuff said

Third, is being able to adjust the makeup of where the ferrous targets hit in the tones. I use 2TF alot on my Trac and I wish there was a way to make the good target sound window smaller and you can do that with the CTX.

There are several more features, like using a gps sat image to plot difference areas of interest like depressions, rock outcropings, etc, then loading them into your CTX and going directly to the spot. I hunt relics alot in big sections of property and use sat images to find where the interesting features are to hunt, only to find the sat image is old or during the fall and now that it is summer its impossible to see them from the ground due to heavy foliage growth.

And finally the ability to Update the tech by internet connection, This is a major extra that alot of people don’t realize will make this machine highly sought after once that information is made more known.. how many machines have had issues or just wasn’t “hot enough” and the only way to get it fixed or upgraded would be to send it in to the manufacturer.. Xp Touched on this in the Deus and it is been very beneficial to the owners that have had the machine for several years…
So when you weigh some of the enhancements I really don’t think this is E-trac II or Deluxe by no means…GH

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